Wednesday, November 08, 2006

The Democrats Strike Back

Thursday, November 18, 2004

Colin Powell's legacy

What Powell needs to say. Posted by Hello

Saturday, November 13, 2004

I couldn't have said it better

Dan Savage, writing for The Portland Mercury, hilariously summarizes what liberals should do now that the red states control the federal government. In a nutshell, he argues we should dump all empathy we have for issues affecting the "heartland", eg, healthcare, jobs, etc. Here's a nugget:

"Certain distressed liberals and progressives are talking about fleeing to Canada or, better yet, seceding from the Union. We can't literally secede and, let's admit it, we don't really want to live in Canada. It's too cold up there and in our heart-of-hearts, we hate hockey. We can secede emotionally, however, by turning our backs on the heartland. We can focus on our issues, our urban issues, and promote our shared urban values. The Republicans have the federal government--for now. But we've got Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, New York City (Bloomberg is a Republican in name only), and every college town in the country. We're everywhere any sane person wants to be. Let them have the shitholes, the Oklahomas, Wyomings, and Alabamas. We'll take Manhattan." - Dan Savage

Shitholes indeed. Backward, hypocritical, hatemongering, tax hating, parasitic shitholes.


Wednesday, November 10, 2004


It's one thing to have a party in power that really doesn't give a crap about environmental protection - that would represent the feelings of most Americans- but it's another thing to have a party in power that is openly hostile to these issues. ANOTHER study came out predicting calamitous things for the Arctic circle if we don't do something about global warming. And what was the response from the government? Not encouraging. Check out these beauties from a couple of the guys most responsible for protecting the environment.

"Kyoto was a bad treaty for the United States," said Mike Leavitt, administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency. Leavitt added in an interview Friday that climate change is not an issue the administration dismisses. "I know that it is of importance to the president that we continue to make progress," he said.
And here's another good one:
"President Bush strongly opposes any treaty or policy that would cause the loss of a single American job, let alone the nearly 5 million jobs Kyoto would have cost," said James Connaughton, chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality.
This is the most interesting quote. So this guy is saying that Bush opposes any policy that might lead to the elimination of ANY job? I wonder if this job protection standard also applies to trade deals too. Or is job protection only relevant to these guys when it might actually protect the environment? Asses.


Benjamin Franklin speaks

A coworker handed me an article (appropriately called "Democracy is Dead") and in it, Benjamin Franklin predicts what might eventually happen to American democracy. It's a great quote so I tracked down the entire speech. In college, I had to read the Madison Papers. Reading Franklin's speech reminded me of how really, really... really smart these guys were. You can't help but be convinced that our nation is getting dumber. Today's intellectuals could not hold a candle to these guys. Anyway, it's worth reading through to get a sense of what the founding fathers thought of the constitution, warts and all, and their early warnings of what might happen to us. I would say Franklin was right on. Here's his speech to the Constitutional Convention:

Mr. President
I confess that there are several parts of this constitution which I do not at present approve, but I am not sure I shall never approve them: For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged by better information, or fuller consideration, to change opinions even on important subjects, which I once thought right, but found to be otherwise. It is therefore that the older I grow, the more apt I am to doubt my own judgment, and to pay more respect to the judgment of others. Most men indeed as well as most sects in Religion, think themselves in possession of all truth, and that wherever others differ from them it is so far error. Steele a Protestant in a Dedication tells the Pope, that the only difference between our Churches in their opinions of the certainty of their doctrines is, the Church of Rome is infallible and the Church of England is never in the wrong. But though many private persons think almost as highly of their own infallibility as of that of their sect, few express it so naturally as a certain french lady, who in a dispute with her sister, said "I don't know how it happens, Sister but I meet with no body but myself, that's always in the right-Il n'y a que moi qui a toujours raison."

In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such; KEY PASSAGE because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other. I doubt too whether any other Convention we can obtain, may be able to make a better Constitution. For when you assemble a number of men to have the advantage of their joint wisdom, you inevitably assemble with those men, all their prejudices, their passions, their errors of opinion, their local interests, and their selfish views. From such an assembly can a perfect production be expected? It therefore astonishes me, Sir, to find this system approaching so near to perfection as it does; and I think it will astonish our enemies, who are waiting with confidence to hear that our councils are confounded like those of the Builders of Babel; and that our States are on the point of separation, only to meet hereafter for the purpose of cutting one another's throats. Thus I consent, Sir, to this Constitution because I expect no better, and because I am not sure, that it is not the best. The opinions I have had of its errors, I sacrifice to the public good. I have never whispered a syllable of them abroad. Within these walls they were born, and here they shall die. If every one of us in returning to our Constituents were to report the objections he has had to it, and endeavor to gain partizans in support of them, we might prevent its being generally received, and thereby lose all the salutary effects & great advantages resulting naturally in our favor among foreign Nations as well as among ourselves, from our real or apparent unanimity. Much of the strength & efficiency of any Government in procuring and securing happiness to the people, depends, on opinion, on the general opinion of the goodness of the Government, as well as well as of the wisdom and integrity of its Governors. I hope therefore that for our own sakes as a part of the people, and for the sake of posterity, we shall act heartily and unanimously in recommending this Constitution (if approved by Congress & confirmed by the Conventions) wherever our influence may extend, and turn our future thoughts & endeavors to the means of having it well administred.

On the whole, Sir, I can not help expressing a wish that every member of the Convention who may still have objections to it, would with me, on this occasion doubt a little of his own infallibility, and to make manifest our unanimity, put his name to this instrument.


Tuesday, November 09, 2004

A little Zinn goes a long way

Howard Zinn never ceases to amaze me. No matter how dark, how depressing, how cynical things become, he is ALWAYS optimistic about the future. He is perhaps the most rationale, compelling and inspiring man that I know of. I guess that's why he's my hero. For those of us who let current events embitter us, Professor Zinn always looks at the long road, as history as his guide, to understand that making real changes to our society can take time. For those of you who need a little lift after the election, take some time to read Professor Zinn's latest essay.


Sunday, November 07, 2004

Michael Moore has a great tribute to the soldiers who have died in Iraq for Bush's war. This should be hung up in the White House as the official Presidential painting that future presidents can ponder over. Posted by Hello

Bury Blair

British citizens have a chance to punish someone for the Iraq debacle this coming year, and in their own direct way, they can have their own impact on the Bush Presidency. Tony Blair MUST be voted out of office. Blair even had the audacity to lecture the rest of Europe to stop being in a "state of denial" about Bush. Bush has consistently humiliated Blair on issues ranging from global warming to the middle east peace process. Blair, the spineless poodle, is the one in the state of denial.

The UK has a parliamentary form of government, so it's not like the citizens will get a chance to vote him out; it'll be up to his fellow reps in parliament. The Labor party will have to move fast if it wants to get rid of Blair and still be in a position to win the national election. America did not hold Bush accountable for Iraq. Now it's the UK's turn to hold someone responsible. Don't fail the world like we Americans did. Don't let us down.


Fly the friendly skies

This kind of news story could only occur in a country choking on its own affluence.

The great, inevitable decline continues...


We're back

Hi readers, we're back. It's been a shocking couple of weeks. We were on pins and needles, just like the rest of the world, awaiting the outcome of the Presidential race. Our last blog was our endorsement of John Kerry for President, which we thought Kerry would ride all the way to the White House. The fact that we endorsed Kerry and he did NOT win leads us to one conclusion: electoral fraud.

We know that Bush has, and will continue to have, tremendous support, no matter what asinine thing he does, and the volume of morons in the States is enormous, but based on our endorsement, we thought this would overcome this ignorance. And it should have, that's why we think this election was stolen. That said, we will accept the outcome of this stolen election, although there will be some major changes at Liberal Thunderdome. First, we'll be moving to Barbados, or maybe Tahiti, someplace warm, and far from the US. Second, we're planning to sell our US passports on Ebay, so start looking for those if you're interested. Finally, we're starting our own business, selling mail-away fall out shelters.

But don't worry, loyal readers, MasterBlaster and Lord Humungus will be here on Liberal Thunderdome, to lay waste to those who wander to far into the wasteland...


Monday, November 01, 2004

Well, with very little time to spare, Liberal Thunderdome is officially endorsing...John Kerry!!!! I'm sure it comes as a surprise to some of our readers, but after much soul searching, we've decided that George W. Bush is a terrible, terrible, terrible President.  Posted by Hello

Tuesday, October 26, 2004

Kerry's October surprise?

This story is not dying. Who would've thunk that a story about lost weapons would be getting this much mileage. And now the Kerry campaign is jumping right on it to continue their theme that Bush has disastrously handled post-war Iraq. It's been kind of hard to figure out the history of the story, but Josh at TPM has been the most coherent on the issue. In a nutshell, the IAEA had been responsible for monitoring these weapons (basically raw material for explosives), but were cut off from it when the American invasion started. After the invasion, the US military ignored the site and left it wide open for looters. The real story here is how the White House is spinning how much they knew. They're trying to spin it that they just found out about it along with everyone else, but the reality seems to be they knew about the site for 18 months, and asked the Iraqis to not tell the IAEA. Their limp excuse seems to be that they did not want the story getting out since they thought it would alert the 'enemy' to all these weapons. I guess we're suppose to assume, using White House logic, that non-enemies are the ones who stole it, and if the story went public, the real enemy would somehow get a hold of this stolen material. Got that?

This story has been getting some real play in the "liberal media", and it only hurts Bush. This is the closet Kerry will get to his own "October surprise", so he might as well milk it. He probably couldn't ask for a better "October surprise", than say, finding old photos of Bush snorting coke. Liberals are nervous as hell that Bush as his own surprise, with most predicting an Osama capture a few days before the election.

There's a week left, anything is possible.


Putin'fying for Bush

I think this says it all about what kind of person Bush is if an autocrat like Putin openly supports his candidacy. Vladimir Putin, the guy currently obliterating any signs of democracy emerging from Russia, has publicly endorsed Bush.

Although no Western European leader has publicly endorsed John Kerry, I'm going to go out on a limb and say the vast majority want him to win. Bush openly dismisses the leaders of France and Germany for speaking out, as is their right, against the war in Iraq, all the while, allowing his party to vilify these countries in the eyes of the American people, and yet is silent when Putin eliminates the last remaining shreds of open government in Russia. Why, sounds like a case of the Bush doctrine!


Friday, October 22, 2004

the long and the short

for those of us in the 'reality-based world,' american foreign policy can't be a combination of 'fortress america' plus an expeditionary ass-kicking force we send out to take down neighborhood thugs. it's got to involve some long-term adjustments in the way we relate to the world.

obsidian wings discusses a WaPost piece on the current administration's viewpoint vis a vis opinions of america in the muslim world:

"Bush and his aides most often deflect questions about recent global polls that have found sharply rising anti-U.S. sentiment in Arab and Muslim countries and in Europe, but one of them addressed it in a recent interview. Speaking for the president by White House arrangement, but declining to be identified, a high-ranking national security official said of the hostility detected in surveys: "I don't think it matters. It's about keeping the country safe, and I don't think that matters."

In what possible world can the fact that large and growing numbers of people in the Middle East hate us not matter? Those people provide terrorists with their recruits. They harbor terrorists, where a population more sympathetic to our aims might turn them in. I would have thought it obvious that in a world in which it is becoming easier and easier to acquire the knowledge necessary to create weapons, and in which it takes only a small number of determined people to cause us serious damage, the ability of terrorists to find disaffected people who hate us, and to work within a more or less sympathetic population, matters enormously. This is, of course, not to say that it's the only thing that matters, or that if we're just nice to all those disaffected people they will leave us alone, or anything. But minimizing both the pool of potential terrorist recruits and the pool of people sympathetic enough to give them cover is clearly one of the things that matters, and I don't think it's at the bottom of the list.

- LH

bush supporters understanding of their candidate

i mean, it speaks for itself:

– 75% believe Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda.
– 74% believe Bush favors including labor and environmental standards in agreements on trade.
– 72% believe Iraq had WMD or a program to develop them.
– 72% believe Bush supports the treaty banning landmines.
– 69% believe Bush supports the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty.
– 61% believe if Bush knew there were no WMD he would not have gone to war.
– 60% believe most experts believe Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda.
– 58% believe the Duelfer report concluded that Iraq had either WMD or a major program to develop them.
– 57% believe that the majority of people in the world would prefer to see Bush reelected.
– 56% believe most experts think Iraq had WMD.
– 55% believe the 9/11 report concluded Iraq was providing substantial support to al Qaeda.
– 51% believe Bush supports the Kyoto treaty.
– 20% believe Iraq was directly involved in 9/11.

is it that they don't care enough to know ? don't know enough to care ?

thanks to winning argument and dailykos

- LH

left behind on renewables

the developed nations of europe and asia have already passed us by, and threaten to leave us in the dust. oil and natural gas are price-volatile, politically unsustainable and environmentally troubling. if we wait for the GOP to catch onto this, it'll be too late:

Some of the shifting is the result of the volatility of oil and gas prices, says Steve Zwolinski, chief executive officer of GE Energy's wind energy division. "What's changed is energy security and fossil fuel volatility," says Mr. Zwolinski. However, he adds, "This is not just a knee-jerk reaction to a short-term price change, but it's people looking at energy reserves and environmental balance and the need for emerging economies to supply their growing cities."

- LH

fun with endangered species

bush's latest ad campaign - getting a little silly aren't we ? even if we indulge the reagan ad comparison, the bear was a pretty established symbol for the USSR. connecting wolves to terrorists seems like a reach. but hey, maybe it'll sell in swingin minnesota . . . oop, wait, they LIKE timberwolves up there.

then again, bush knows a bit about targeting wolves for extinction:

"The federal government has proposed removing federal protections for wolves throughout the entire eastern United States and thus effectively ending the species recovery before it is complete."

- LH

Thursday, October 21, 2004

the world series of metaphors

is anyone else freaked out that its massachusetts vs. texas in the world series ?

what are the chances of that happening ?

now i don't want to go overboard indulging the metaphor (clearly it wouldnt hold up to the first time someone points out that the sox beating the yankees is more like dean beating kerry in the primaries), but i do reserve the right to refer to roger clemens as 'zell' until it's over.

- LH

UPDATE: Our readers now know exactly how reliable the Thunderdome is on the subject of baseball. Thank goodness the NBA season is coming up . . .

return to slough

“I’ve created an atmosphere where I’m a friend first, boss second. Probably entertainer third.”

brilliant television is so rare.

- LH

the new opec: headquarters in moscow

the energy hole we're digging just keeps getting deeper. dig up, dig up !

in the washington post this week, artem agoulnik serves notice that america's dysfunctional and unsustainable relationship to energy goes beyond oil:

In Russia's hands, natural gas has become a geopolitical weapon. . . Russia has even begun to organize the world's natural gas exporters under its aegis. Analysts are predicting that the Gas Exporting Countries Forum, founded in 2001, may serve as a precursor to a natural gas OPEC with Russia at the helm. In the wake of the forum's June meeting in Cairo, the deputy chief executive of Gazprom, Alexander Ryazanov, made clear that the natural gas policies of member states should be "coordinated" so as to sell gas at the "highest price possible."

US foreign policy is already hobbled by our dependence on archaic, oppressive monarchies in the middle east; now we can look forward to building the same lasting, destructive, and disastrous bond with friend and aspiring autocrat vladmir putin.

i just call him vladmir.

- LH

Why is the media ignoring this?

Newsweak, which is better known for informative pieces on Nicole Kidman's love life, finally came through with this important piece on the escalating price of oil and its impact on middle east politics. The article looks at the rising price of oil and the flood of money flowing into the hands of the most despotic leaders in the region. The following passage leaves you kind of breathless, in that it quotes James Woolsey, former CIA chief, and one of the biggest cheerleaders for the Iraq invasion:

"The petrodollars we provide such nations contribute materially to the terrorist threats we face," said former CIA chief James Woolsey and other prominent neoconservatives in an open letter last month. The United States faces a "perfect storm" strategically and economically, they said, if it doesn't reduce its dependency on foreign oil. And there's every indication they're right. But these same pundits, passionate advocates of the Iraq invasion, now mildly insist on the need to use more hybrid cars and other technologies to reduce consumption.

Unbelievable. These neocons are now finally understanding the energy situation: as a key national security issue. Conveniently, they refuse to see the impact of the invasion of Iraq on oil prices. The article argues that the invasion has further ensconced the dictators in the region (punching another hole in Bush's theory that the Iraq war would spread democracy in the Middle East, in fact, it's done the opposite, as the article argues.). Money derived from higher oil prices, through direct and indirect ways, will funnel down to the terrorists. I wonder if neocons like Wellesley can get Bush as excited for promoting hybrid cars as they got him for invading Iraq. Maybe we'll see Bush driving a Toyota Prius up to his next campaign event, arguing it's one more front on the war on terror.


Wow. I'm speechless. The Bosox did it. Unbelievable. Posted by Hello

Wednesday, October 20, 2004

Butterfly ballot idiot

Here's a nice column from Pat Buchanan chiming in on the Kerry "Mary Cheney" flap. I wonder if Lynne and Dick Cheney will be as equally outraged that such a prominent conservative like Buchanan compares their daughter to an alcoholic, or better yet, Catholic priests who have molested children. Lovely. And in some twisted, homophobic way, the column is written as if Buchanan is coming to Mary Cheney's defense. With friends like this, who needs...


Oops, I wasn't sarcastic enough.

Certain contributing writers of Liberal Thunderdome were concerned that our readers might miscontrue my recent blog about Britney Spears . So let me go on record here, no, I don't like Britney Spears in any capacity. And in no way does anyone else associated with Liberal Thunderdome like Britney Spears.

Although, under further consideration, I do have to admit she's quite a talented dancer, and she has a knack for writing creative and inspiring lyrics. And she never forgets the fans. Damn, I take it all back, I LOVE Britney Spears!



Yowsers! The Sox win three in a row. They're the first baseball team in Major League history to tie it up after being down three games. Man, I really don't like baseball, but I have to admit, this is exciting. So it's basically a one game series. This reminds me of the Riverview Rams, down 2 touchdowns to Cardinal Mooney, and battling back and winning behind the skills of a star receiver and a gifted cornerback. Can the Bosox repeat the magic of that dream game?


Tuesday, October 19, 2004

The dream is still alive

Dang, the Sox aren't done. Battling back, the Bosox win game 2, while down late in the game.

Two more. It's possible, right?


Hate state hypocrisy

It's absolutely shocking! This election season 12 states are deciding, via referendums, whether to amend their state's constitution to ban gay marriage. Here's an interesting statistic, only 1 of those states actually has a HETEROSEXUAL divorce rate below the national average of 3.5 divorces per 1000 marriages. Only North Dakota has managed to keep their divorce rate below that average (There weren't any statistics for Louisiana.).

Isn't that inspiring, a bunch of backward states are in the process of amending their constitution to prevent gays from being equal under the law, even though these twits can't manage to stay married themselves. Here's a thought, instead of passing gay-bashing amendments, that you say will protect the sanctity of marriage, why don't you hypocrite buffoons convince heterosexuals in your own backyards to sanctify their own marriages, instead of divorcing at a rate higher than the rest of the country.


What about her fans?

Damn. Say it ain't so.

We never "chill" from being her fans.


Monday, October 18, 2004


Liberal Thunderdome could not have said it better. Thanks Al Gore:

"The essential cruelty of Bush's game is that he takes an astonishingly selfish and greedy collection of economic and political proposals and then cloaks them with a phony moral authority, thus misleading many Americans ... who have a deep and genuine desire to do good in the world," Gore said.

"And in the process, he convinces them to lend unquestioning support for proposals that actually hurt their families and their communities," he said.

"Truly, President Bush has stolen the symbolism and body language of religion and used it to disguise the most radical effort in American history to take what rightfully belongs to the American people and give as much of it as possible to the already wealthy and privileged," he said.

Al Gore has been absolute agro on the stump since he decided not to run again. And most of it has been pure gold.


no easy answers on taxes

president bush is happily flirting around with every possible replacement for our current tax system that any right-wing think tank can dream up. the latest fantasy - a national sales tax.

daniel altman takes a good look at it in the NYT, and paints a picture of political near-impossibility. i think W will move this little national dialogue from 'sales' to 'flat' awful fast.

- LH

a one issue voter ?

a lot of talk out there about 'one issue voters' choosing up sides in the coming days. one issue ? i'm sorry, but that's simply unconscionable. if the war on terror is the only issue that this country takes seriously anymore, then we've quite seriously already lost.

another bush presidency, more accurately, an electoral endorsement of the bush presidency, could have incredible and long-lasting implications on the way we live our lives in this country, even if al quaeda, islamic fundamentalism, and terror itself disappeared tomorrow.

there's a whole lot riding on this election; that doesn't make the issues surrounding foreign policy any less important, it makes a reasoned, thoughtful decision a great deal more so.

- LH

Uncle Sam wants YOU

I'm actually a bit surprised that Kerry is using the draft as a campaign issue, but I like it. Based on a conversation I had with another lefty, she didn't like it, and thought it was a petty way to get votes. I agree, it's petty, but that's how America works. Americans aren't interested in the nuanced, complex approach to policy issues, they WANT to be manipulated into voting one way or another. Kerry recognizes this defining characteristic of the American voter.

I think this worries the Bushies, that's why he's saying, in a bizarre twist of the situation, that he's the best candidate to avoid a draft. Of course there's NO logic to his position, but it's his way of addressing the issue. To me, this is a no brainer for Bush. He could completely deflate this issue by nullifying any chance we might need a draft by encouraging his younger supporters to enlist. There are literally tens of thousands of College Republicans in the nation's universities and most have publicly come out to support Bush's Iraq war. I wonder, if Bush were to hold a press conference, asking his core young supporters in the College Republicans, to take up this "calling of our generation...", how many would actually enlist? So far, we're not seeing it, but what if Bush specifically asked for them to enlist, would they? Let me take a wild guess what most might say, in the words of our courageous Vice-Prez Cheney, referring to his multiple draft deferments for the Vietnam War, "
I had other priorities ... than military service."

Be all you can be indeed!


A spark remains...

Good news Bosox fans, the Sox are still alive. Down 3 games, they battle back. I really don't like baseball, but I have to admit, I would like to see the Sox win it all. Boston is one of my favorite cities and the people there deserve it, after so many years of heartbreak. Go Sox!!



This article in Nytimes Magazine by Ron Suskind has been getting a lot of mileage in the blog world, but it's soooo good, that LT will link to it too.

There's a lot of insightful, and disturbing, information in the article, but what stands out for me is the focus on Bush's Christian faith. The article quotes several "real" Americans who are convinced that Bush is on a mission from God, and their faith in Bush is a direct correlation with their faith in God.

These people have reinforced my belief that there is, for a large majority of religious Americans, a complete disconnect with modern spirituality and one's ability to truly understand a complex world. It's a shame to see what has happened, since if you look historically at some of the great social movements, Christianity was a motivating force, eg, the labor movement, and even more so, the Civil Rights movement. Now that the Religious right has hijacked the public face of Christianity, it seems the most pressing issues are volatile social ones, or worse, in the eyes of the Christian Coalition, the oppressive nature of our tax system.

One of the few positives that might come out of a Bush victory in November is that it will expose the Religious Right for the vacuous, amoral, hypocritical movement that it is. My hope is that another 4 years of Bush, and the empowerment of the Religious right, will inevitably obliterate the relationship between Christianity and the Right. Many would argue that a Bush victory will only empower, and solidify their power. I disagree. America is too secular, and at some point, the American public will buckle under the overbearing yoke of a pseudo-religious political movement. That's why gay marriage and abortion have become such hot issues, it's really the last gasp of the Religious right to have any long term influence on these issues. The march toward secularism is inevitable, for better or for worse, and many in the right wing Christian movement understand this. That's why it's getting so nasty.


Saturday, October 16, 2004

The gay flap

It really is odd to see how much mileage this issue - Kerry mentioning Dick Cheney's gay daughter in his answer to his question about gay marriage - is getting in the press. A lot of folks think it was a mistake by Kerry to bring her into this debate, but I'm going to give Kerry more credit than that. This issue just might disappear, but it also might stay alive, just under the radar until the election. Kerry is just too calculating a figure to just let something random and emotional like that just blurt out. I think he knew what kind of reaction there would be, and initially, I would guess he knew there would be a negative reaction to him bringing it up. But if does continue to get play, I think it helps him in the long run, mainly because it requires all of Bush's right wing pseudo religious supporters to talk about an issue they're very uncomfortable talking about. Most are in complete denial that their Vice-President has a gay daughter. It's just too incomprehensible for them to think their ultra rightwing nutbag leaders would somehow be so flawed (in their eyes) as to raise a gay daughter. So, they can't really come out and defend the president and attack Kerry without exposing their own vitriolic history on the subject.

And that brings me to the depraved situation the Cheney's have embraced. It's quite pathetic to see Lynne Cheney get upset that John Kerry mentions her daughter, in a question about homosexuality, and not get equally upset when some of her husband's core supporters use language that equates Lynne's daughter's behavior with pedophilia, beastiality, alcoholism, or a host of other quite nasty comparisons. Where's Lynne's outrage for these comments? Well, it's quite easy to understand, since it would put her into a position where she would end up attacking a huge chunk of the people that keep her husband and that doofus Bush in power. Let's take a quote from one of Bush's most ardent supporters:

When lawlessness is abroad in the land, the same thing will happen here that happened in Nazi Germany. Many of those people involved in Adolph Hitler were Satanists. Many of them were homosexuals. The two things seem to go together. Pat Robertson, Christian Coalition, 700 Club 1/21/93
That's an old quote, and there are more recent ones in a similar vein, but I thought that would be a useful one to demonstrate the venomous rhetoric spewing forth from some of Cheney/Bush's most loyal supporters.

Can you just imagine the scenes that play out, over and over again, as Lynne and her husband attend innumerable fundraisers and pep rallies, where over caviar and expensive wine, these people, oblivious to Mary Cheney's sexual orientation, tell Lynne and her husband to keep up the fight against these "gay activists who want to molest our children..." I wonder if Lynne even winces when something like this is said, or does she just force a grin and thank the person for supporting her husband. It seems that the Cheney's are close to their children. Mary even works on her father's campaign, but you have to wonder what stomach churning family values they have, that they would continue to pander to this most hateful element of American society, simply in a desperate bid to stay in power. Well, I think I just answered that question myself. Family values indeed.